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Let’s Re-Read Breaking Dawn Together! Chapter 14

52 Comments November 1, 2011 by MrsEdwardCullen Filed Under: Breaking Dawn Book, Twilight

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While we impatiently wait for Breaking Dawn Part 1 to be released, we continue with our highly-popular, Community Re-Read!

Every Tuesday & Friday, I’ll post a breakdown for each chapter in the book, counting down the days until the official release of the film on November 18th. Let’s get started, dig out your copy of Breaking Dawn, read the chapters together with us, and discuss anything you may find of interest that you might have missed the first or twentieth time around. Let’s continue our journey into FOREVER.

Chapter 14:

You Know Things Are Bad When You Feel Guilty For Being Rude To Vampires

“Things hadn’t changed too much, except that now Bella was sitting up in the middle of the sofa, and the IV was gone. Blondie sat at her feet, her head resting against Bella’s knees. Still gave me chills to see how casually they touched her.”

Not much really going on in this chapter, except a ton of funnies from Jacob Black. After Sam’s now-defunct wolf pack was powerless in getting Jake, Seth, and Leah to return to La Push, Jacob heads to the Cullen home to fill the vampires in on what took place.

Pg. 268-271 When I got back to the house, there was no one waiting outside for my report. My eyes quickly caught a small change in the now-familiar scene. There was a stack of light-colored fabric on the bottom step of the porch. Someone had laid out clothes. Huh. Edward must have caught my moment of irritation as I’d bolted out the door. Well. That was…nice. And weird. I took the clothes gingerly between my teeth-ugh-and carried them back to the trees. Just in case this was some joke by the blond psychopath and I had a bunch of girls’ stuff here. Bet she’d love to see the look on my human face as I stood there naked, holding a sundress. I shook the clothes out, snapping them against a tree to beat some of the smell from them. They were definitely guy’s clothes-tan pants and a white button-down shirt. Neither of them long enough, but they looked like they’d fit around me. I rolled up the cuffs up on the shirtsleeves, but there wasn’t much I could do about the pants. Exhausted, I walked slowly up to the Cullens’porch steps in my fancy new secondhand clothes but hesitated when I got to the door. Did I knock? Stupid, when they knew I was here. “They just wanted to talk,” I mumbled, my voice dragging with exhaustion. ” No attack on the horizon.“Yes, “ Edward answered. “I heard most of it.” “I’d tell you to go get some sleep,” Bella said, “but my guess is that you’re going to pass out on the floor in about six seconds, so there’s probably no point.” I headed for the door, counting off the seconds for her as I walked. “One Mississippi…two Mississippi…” “Where’s the flood, mutt?” Rosalie muttered. *HA!!!Hilarious! “You know how you drown a blonde, Rosalie? Glue a mirror to the bottom of a pool.” LMAO! I heard Edward chuckle as I pulled the door shut. “I’ve already heard that one,” Rosalie called after me.

Pg. 272-277 I turned slowly, Edward was already out the door. He had an apology in his expression as he approached me. “Jeez, what now?” “I’m sorry,” he said, and then he hesitated, like he didn’t know how to phrase what he was thinking. What’s on your mind, mind reader? “When you were speaking to Sam’s delegates earlier, I was giving a play-by-play for Carlisle and Esme and the rest. They were concerned-Esme was troubled by the hardships this is putting your pack through. She asked me to speak to you privately about it.” That took me off guard. “Hardships?” “The homeless part, particularly. She’s very upset that you are all so…bereft.” *Sidebar-what in the heck is Edward talking about? He & Carlisle both kill me, they speak like a dictionary at times lol. I snorted. Vampire mother hen-bizarre. “We’re tough. Tell her not to worry.” “She’d still like to do what she can. I got the impression that Leah prefers not to eat in her wolf form?” “And?” I demanded. “Well, we do have normal human food here, Jacob. Keeping up appearances, and, of course, for Bella. Leah is welcome to anything she’d like. All of you are.” “I’ll pass that along.” “And there’s the matter of clothes.” “Oh, yeah. Thanks.” “Well, were easily able to help out with any needs there. Alice rarely allows us to wear the same thing twice. We’ve got piles of brand-new clothes that are destined for Goodwill, and I’d imagine that Leah is fairly close to Esme’s size.” “Not sure how she’ll feel about bloodsucker castoffs. She’s not as practical as I am…” “I trust that you can present the offer in the best possible light. As well as the offer for any other physical object you might need, or transportation, or anything else at all. And showers, too, since you prefer to sleep outdoors. Please…don’t consider yourselves without the benefits of a home.” He said the last line softly-not trying to keep quiet this time, but with some kind of real emotion. I stared at him for a second, blinking sleepily. “That’s er, nice of you. Tell Esme we appreciate the, uh, thought. But the perimeter cuts through the river in a few places, so we keep pretty clean, thanks.” I turned away from him, only to stop cold when I heard the low, panted cry from inside the house. By the time I looked back, he was already gone. What now? I let myself in again. Bella was panting, curled over the bulge in the center of her body. Rosalie held her while Edward, Carlisle, and Esme all hovered. Alice was at the top of the stair, staring down into the room with her hands pressed to her temples. It was weird-like she was barred from entering somehow. “Bella,” the doctor said anxiously. “I heard something crack. I need to take a look.” “Pretty sure it was a rib. Ow. Yep. Right here.” It was breaking her bones now. “I need to take an X-ray. There might be slinters. We don’t want it to puncture anything.” I was too tired to follow them, too tired to move. I leaned back against the wall and then slid to the ground. The door was still open, and I pointed my nose toward it, grateful for the clean breeze blowing in. “Do you want a pillow?” Alice asked me. “No.” “That doesn’t look comfortable.” “Why aren’t you upstairs with the rest of them?” “Headache,” she answered. Her small face was pinched. “Vampires get headaches?” “Not normal ones.” “So how come you’re not with Bella anymore? You two were like this,” I twisted two of my fingers together. “Like I said, headache.” “Bella’s giving you a headache?” “Not Bella, really. The fetus. I can’t see it. I can’t see anything about it. Just like you. It’s killing my head to watch her. And I can’t see more than a few minutes ahead, anyway. The…fetus is too much a part of her future. I have to admit, it’s a relief having you close by-in spite of the wet-dog smell. Everything goes away. It numbs the headache. “Happy to be of service, ma’am.” I mumbled. “I wonder what it has in common with you…why you’re the same that way.” “I have nothing in common with that life-sucker.” “Well, there’s something there.” *Sidebar-Oh snap! Has Jake imprinted on the baby this early?? Hmmm theory theory!

Pg. 278-285 This chapter ends with Jake finally getting a looong nap, and waking to a Twilight zone of his own. The pain in my nose woke me up enough to remember where I’d fallen asleep. I groaned and opened my eyes. “About time,” Blondie mumbled from not too far away. “The chainsaw impersonation was getting a little tired.” Once my face was out of the stinking feathers, I caught other scents. Like bacon, and cinnamon, all mixed up with the vampire smell. “Hey, Jake’s coming around!” Seth crowed. He was sitting on Bella’s other side, his arm slung carelessly over her shoulders, and overflowing plate of food on his lap. What the hell? “He came to find you,” Edward said while I got to my feet. “and Esme convinced him to stay for breakfast.” “Yeah, Jake-I was just checking to see if you were okay ‘cause you didn’t ever phase back. Leah got worried. Anyway, they ha all this food and dang,”-he turned to Edward,-”man you can cook” “Thank you,” Edward murmured. I inhaled slowly, trying to unclench my teeth. I couldn’t take my eyes off Seth’s arm. “Bella got cold.” Edward said quietly. “Leah running patrol?” I asked Seth. “Yeah,” he said as he chewed. Seth had new clothes on, too. They fit him better than mine fit me. “She’s on it. No worries. We traded off about midnight. I ran twelve hours.” He was proud of that, and it showed in his voice. “Midnight? Wait a minute-what time is it now?” “’Bout dawn.” Well, damn. I’d slept through the rest of the day and the whole night-dropped the ball. “Crap. Sorry about that, Seth.” “Naw, man you needed some serious sleep.” I glanced quickly at Bella. Her color was back to the way I remembered it. Pale, but with the rose undertone. Her lips were pink again. “How’s the rib?” “Taped up nice and tight. I don’t even feel it.” *Jake leaves Bella to eat her eggs and blood and leaves Seth to his enormous breakfast. Jake being foolish, declines breakfast & decides to find Leah and hunt with her. As Jacob tries to leave the Cullen home, Carlisle stops him and asks about safe hunting zones for the family. Jake assures Carlisle that things are safe but they should hunt in large numbers and further out than usual. Confirming this with Alice, Carlisle is at ease. Jake tries to leave the Cullen home when he is again stopped…this time by Esme Cullen. “Okay, then that’s settled. I’ll be on my way. Seth, I’ll expect you back on at dusk, so get a nap in there somewhere, all right?” And then Esme flitted back in the room, a big covered dish in her hands. She stopped hesitantly just behind Carlisle’s elbow, her wide, dark gold eyes on my face. She held the dish out and took a shy step closer. “Jacob,” she said quietly. “I know it’s…unappetizing to you, the idea of eating here, where it smells so unpleasant. But I would feel much better if you would take some food with you when you go. I know you can’t go home, and that’s because of us. Please-ease some of my remorse. Take something to eat.” She held the food out to me, her face all soft and pleading. I don’t know how she did it, because she didn’t look older than her mid-twenties, and she was bone pale, too, but something about her expression suddenly reminded me of my mom. Jeez. “Uh, sure, sure,” I mumbled. “I guess. Maybe Leah’s still hungry or something.” “Thank you, Jacob,” Esme said, smiling at me. How did a stone face have dimples, for crying out loud? “Um, thank you.” I said. My face felt hot-hotter than usual. This was the problem with hanging out with vampires-you got used to them. They started feeling like friends. “Jacob?” Esme asked. “I left a basket of clothes on the porch. They’re for Leah. They’re freshly washed-I tried to touch them as little as possible. Do you mind taking them to her?” “On, it.” I muttered, and then I ducked out the door before anything could guilt me into anything else.

*Awww Jake’s got vampire feverrrrr ahahahahaaa. Soo what do we think of Seth! He is really chillin’ hanging out in vamp central! Lol it’s great, he and Edward have a very good friend ship. So any theories on what Alice said about Jacob and the fetus?

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jite4vanquish

Rude to vampires….hahaha…somehow I can’t see Jacob feeling guilty over being rude to vampires. However, if I were Jacob, I would feel very embarrassed about having to wear Emmett’s clothing and having high water pants on. I would be getting me some scissors and making them into cutoffs. Heck, Jacob could just use his teeth!
So, Jacob enters the house and sees a chick flick on and the room back to normal. I wonder what chick flick? The first Twilight movie?
When Jacob sees Bella thrilled to see him, he has a point about how much easier it would be if she did not act so pleased to see him….and Edward obviously agrees….we have all been saying that in these re-reads all along and all together…..Bella just does not know how to let go. Is she just naively friendly, is it the Renesmee/Jacob pull? I think it might be a little of both. I’ve known girls who cannot stop flirting with men, they just don’t know how to turn it off. It is part of their personality. They light up when men pay attention to them, which just perpetuates the flirting….even if they are married or committed to someone. It can drive men crazy and cause lots of tension with the couple.
I love Jacob’s humor here….trotting in the neighbors….hahaha
Then the blond jokes begin….glue a mirror to the bottom…hahaha.
And his reference to Esmes’s concerns….vampire mother hen..bizarre.

I wonder how it made Jacob feel that Edward was offering them their second hand clothes coming from a very rich family who rarely wear their clothes more than once while Jacob is homeless and has no possessions whatsoever. I know I would feel a little jealous. But, Jacob does not seem a bit bothered except for the stench.
Then Bella gets a broken rib and Alice finally enters the picture….we get the entire story as to why Alice has not been around. Poor Jacob, so exhausted that he can hardly sit upright. And boy, Jacob does not like being compared with that thing that is sucking the life out of Bella. Now this is another clue that SM gives us. I knew she was trying to tell us something here, which made me go hmmm, but I did not know yet where to go with it. It did make me more alert to try and find more clues as I was reading.
Jacob finally crashes and wakes up, it’s morning, (Twiheart, are you keeping count?), and there is Seth, keeping Bella warm and eating breakfast….alot of breakfast! I hope this part is in the movie, I really want to see BooBoo Stewart’s acting ability here…he is so cute.
This next conversation with Jacob and Carlisle looks like it is definitely in the movie because we have seen it in the recent releases.
Then this chapter ends with Jacob reflecting on how Esme somehow reminds him of his mother and how things sure have changed…..the vamps are beginning to feel like friends….and Bella, of course, asking Jacob to come back, pulling him helplessly back in.
Not much longer til Bella goes into labor…..I am getting very excited…..I am so psyched I can hardly stand it! The movie is going to be awesome!
Anonymous

This will probably all be skimmed over in the movie.

Go, Seth!!!
Anonymous

I think that for the most part it is the pull from Renesmee…because after she gives birth and is transformed she no longer has the same need for jacob to be around.
TWILIGHT_TONIGHT!

I am so tired of reading and re-reading the books…..I want to see feathers and headboards, weddings and birthing NOW ! Summit has made us wait so long and I am going to implode………BOOM ! OH GREAT, NOW I’M DEAD.
Mary Masen

Edward feeling guilty for “broadcasting live” the packs’ talk and then BOOM! little “EJ” breaks one of Bella’s ribs!
Poor Alice! Her best friend is dying and she’s not even able to help her in any way and then the headaches! And not being able to even see what will happen to Bella next! So when Jacob is around Alice cant see anything, but when he’s not she can see few things now and then. But how is not seeing anything helping Bella as opposed to seeing something..? Awww! I love Esme very much but shes not very ofter in the spotlight of the story! The scene she offer’s Jacob anything he or his pack would like to have is so beautiful! It’s a must for the move in my opinion. And Jake and Rose making fun of each other! lol
Unfortunately the part where Jacob and Carlisle talk privately won’t be in the movie, bc as we recently saw most of the Cullens sit in the living room and talk about the treaty being void. But the Esme part has to be in this sequence!
HAPPY NOVEMBER aka BREAKING DAWN month everyone! Tomorrow we have Rob on Jimmy Kimmel and Taylor on Jay Leno and on Thursday (when it was just announce the presales for the Twilight marathon stickers will start at my local cinema! BTW what time should I go there? 8am is good I believe or at the break of dawn sounds better? ), ok, and also on Thursday Kristen will be on Kimmel + Leno!, on the 7th Taylor on Kimmel, on the 8th Peter Fach on Regis&Kelly, on the 9h Taylor on R&K, on the 10th Rob on R&K and on he 18th the (whole?) cast on the Ellen show! Very BD1 busy month!!!!
Oh and at the new sneak peek Summit release yesterday we can actually see Quil and his imprintee(?), Claire! So the whole imprinting-on-a-baby thing won’t come completely out of the blue! Yay! Good job Bill Condon and MR!
And Happy Twilight Tuesday to those attending the event!
I<3Headboards

I think it unbelievable that Jacob go mad that Seth had his arm around Bella – wow like really and what u have done to Edward isn’t 10x as worst – I think it funny that he so much like Nessie from the beginning
ifonly2011

Anyone think Jacob will be given ill-fitting clothes in the film lol
It’s interesting that Alice can’t “see” Renesmee OR Jacob. I assume it’s because of the chromosome anomoly (have we read about this yet or is it to come?? can’t remember!). Alice couldn’t see Bella’s future as soon as she was pregnant so I can’t see that Jacob imprinting is what they have in common and the reason for the headaches. And what’s more interesting is that Jacob gives Alice relief from these headaches! Anyone got any ideas????
The fact that Jacob is jealous of Seth when he wakes up makes me chuckle! Seth’s arm being around Bella, and that Seth is just so comfortable at the Cullens home? or that the clothes fit Seth better lol For a second there it’s the old Jacob, the immature Jacob. But it’s sweet how he feels guilty over everyone being so nice to him….guess he wasn’t expecting that!
This chapter will be over in a flash in film I imagine, but they’ll have to keep in Bella’s ribs being broken surely…..and maybe we’ll get to see what happens when Jacob is asleep????
ifonly2011

Good point! had forgotton about that or maybe it’s because it would just be too weird to flirt with your daughter imprinter???? God this could get complicated!
http://newmoonmovie.org DancingAlice

It´s a relief that Bella is better now. I love how Jacob talks about the situation and about himself - witty remarks of a teenager.
He is also so horribly deprived of sleep that I feel sorry for him.
“I followed after him, shuffling like a zombie. Using about the same number of brain cells, too.”
When he wakes up after a long sleep, he sees Seth sitting nex to Bella with his arm around her shoulders and gets really jealous.
“I inhaled slowly, trying to unclench my teeth. I couldn´t take my eyes off Seth´s arm. Seth looked at my face, and suddenly he needed both hands to eat with.”

When Carlisle discusses the strategy of their hunting with Jacob, it is evident Edward is not willing to leave Bella´s side.
“Clearly, there was no physical need strong enough to get Edward away from Bella now.”
Anonymous

well, if you turn it around on jacob, he goes from trying to get with bella and ends up with her daughter….he is truely a craddle robber!
Anonymous

Oh no he’s being sucked in by the Cullen Vampire Charm LOL, NOOOO don’t fall for it Jake lol. (Just kidding) I think it’s great not just because he’s understanding the Cullens but they are understanding him. Edward is uncomfortable with the way Bella is around Jake but he understands why & what can he say now, Jacob has given up everything for his family & him, therre is no way he can turn him away.
I really hope all the jokes are in the movie, well as much as possible most of Jakes funniest moments were in his head.
I think Jacob is the best I always have & always will
JenLe

I agree. And Jacob clearly realizes it was Renesmee the whole time. It also stated somewhere in BD that now Jake can love Bella the right way which is how he could handle seeing Bella and Edward being intimate w/ each other and not be upset about it. I have to say, I’ve always been a Team Jacob fan that never wanted him w/ Bells. I always thought he deserved so much more. Hopefully SM will continue w/ his and Nessie’s story.
ifonly2011

I agree the movie is going to be awesome! Every single clip they’ve showed us has proved this!!!!! The time is going to fly from now till the 18th
Anonymous

Okay I have not posted in a while, but at this point in the book my feelings for Jacob have softened. Esme is described perfectly by Jacob she is a Vampire Mother Hen, you would think she would have been the one Bella went to for help. The fetus breaking Bella’s rib…yikes poor Bella and Edward…so hard to see someone you love suffer and not be able to do a thing and Alice has her own pain…and I do not mean the headache. The bright light in this chapter is Seth, he sees the Cullen’s as friends—that bound he formed with Edward in Eclipse is really strong.
Eli

He deserved much more?? I have another opinion…
Mirandathevampgirl

hello my dear ladies hopefully im not too late too join the thread but i got to be honest here i dont think today i feel like making any observing coments today bc today im tooo busy thinking about water for elephants today just bc its on dvd and im waiting for it. I remember during the first half of the year when we would posts about water for elephantsa everyday and we would talk about how excited we wereand how we all believed that the movie would do wonderful things to robs career and have people realize that hes a damn good actor after the dissapointing support of remember me( and i will never forget how pissed off people were ignoring it just bc of its dark ending). but it seemed like alot of people did give him a chance people who werent critics(yes im looking at u guys sitting on ur fat asses at home watching tv), oh but it was still good. Alot of great memories we had while we were waiting for breaking dawn updates when they were filming, and it was the perfect distraction for us. And let me remind u that i read breaking dawn for the first time while i was in florida during water for elephants weekend i had the best of both worlds. And now in a few hours ill be getting the dvd and have it distract me for the next couple of weeks before breaking dawn. And for my quick thoughts on this chapter although i dont have many at the moment kind of foreshadows how close enough jacob will soon be to the cullen family
Anonymous

I love how the Cullens show their appreciation to Jacob for all he has given up for Bella. I also really like that Jacob is beginning to figure out that they are good and that they really care about Bella. The relationship that has developed between Seth and Edward was really special for me, too. The “blond” jokes and “hatred” between Jake and Rosalie are the greatest. I can’t imagine all the emotions there will be if half these scenes are in the movie. Can’t wait!!
Midnighteclipse

Happy breaking Dawn month!lol. Love it Mary masen! U guys are so lucky in the USA, you get all these talk shows with guests like rob & Taylor. There’s not much buzz here in the uk * sad face*, we’d be lucky to get a half decent interview from rob pat & he’s a Brit?! Thank goodness for sites like these that keep us linked to what we missing out on. Thanks so much guys!
JenLe

Of course, don’t we all ? Let me re-word myself here…not to say Bella was nothing, because the girl is everything obviously. What I mean is, he and Bella are just total opposites to me. Not that opposites don’t attract or anything, but Jake is so light and fun. Bella is sort of…boring …and Edward is kinda the same also. Bella and Edward do belong together. I just feel Jake deserved to be w/ someone more non-dull (sorry, tried to not to make it sound horrible for the sensitive fans. I don’t want to be attacked…again…just stating my opinion–I am no one special). But yeah, it’s good to have an opinion. We don’t always need to agree w/ each other, but we can respect each other’s thoughts.
JenLe

Team Jake til the end! . I agree with everything you’ve said.
Anonymous

Ok, I am loving the new relationship between Jake and Edward. Seth had plenty of time to develope the relationship while Jake was off running around as a wolf before the wedding. Seth really bonded with the Cullens while Jake was gone, especially Edward. So it is absolutely no surprise that he is comfortable with them.

Seth has deep feeling for all of them and has great respect for them. He relishes his own life with acceptance and easy, as he does theirs… Seth doesn’t let anyone else influence him in his own decisions and just does what he is meant to do…. Just the fact that he was able to walk away from Sam’s pack showed a great deal of strength on his part too, even at his young age…

Esme, is such a wonderful giving person she really takes on her extended family, and provides them with the motherly love that she gives and provides to her own children… alice,jasper, emmett and rosalie and most of all her favorite Edward and Bella. She knew right from the very beginning that Edward and Bella belonged together supported them through all the trials and tribulations, with as much love as she could give…. I have always wondered how she felt when Edward made the decision to leave Forks in New Moon and asked his family to leave also… how hard it was for her..We know that she hated the fact that Edward was gone and some of the pain she felt was mentioned, in New Moon.

Esme is one of my favorite’s in this story because of the way she is so human, you never have the feeling of crossness from her or Carlisle for that matter.

I find many messages so intwined in all the books.. about everyday human life and as much as we love our Edward and Bella, we never talk enough about the other characters. Only in Breaking Dawn do we find more out about the Cullens.

As far as the question of Jake already imprinting on Nessie, I think that the moment Jake walked in the door and Bella stood to show him her belly Jake was done.There was the pull all along in eclipse especially, and I have mentioned this many times before it is extremely stong and now wham!!!!! It happened so quickly that we just bypass it…. he may not have seen Nessie but she was very aware of everything in the surrounding area as any unborn child is…. this I can attest to. (I have done many ultrasounds and know that when you are looking at that child they are well aware of something, becasue I have seen responsive babies invetro many, many times upon hearing there parents voices, a press on the stomach, music in the background.)… So, there is no way that Nessie didn’t know who was there, or who was, she knew. And not Until Edward touches Bellas stomach after hearing Nessie do we know what is going to happen in the story. (well at least the first time). So, many things suddenly change and quickly too.

Jake has brought much to the story at this point and it only gets better. ) have a great nite.
Anonymous

Mrs. EC, what the heck is Edward talking about when he says, “Esme is very upset that you are all so……bereft.” ? That’s just one of those times when, as Bella said in Twilight, that Edward speaks in the cadences of a past century, or as she said in the movie, “Sometimes you speak like you’re from different time.”

After reading this chapter, I know and love the Cullens even better, from all the small, kind gestures they have shown Jacob, Seth, and even Leah, who hates them. The small act of putting a pillow under Jacob’s head while he slept was so touching. Wonder who it was? Even Rosalie with her joking was not ignoring Jacob. It was her way of giving him attention. Sweet Esme gave Jacob freshly washed clothes for Leah, trying to touch them as little as possible to avoid contaminating them with vamp smell. Awww. And I hope Jacob doesn’t go dump Esme’s food under a tree. Haha, and then Jacob remembered that Edward could hear him thinking that! LOL! Jacob’s thoughts to Edward: “Don’t you say anything to her! Let her think I ate it!” It’s all so heart warming and entertaining. All this good stuff had better be in the movie! No good reason for leaving it out.
katieg

Thx to all for the posts. I love some of the insights you have shared. I’ve debated rereading BD again, but know I’d be upset at them leaving so much out. This Twimom has been obsessed since 2008 & don’t want it to end in 2012; thankful for the DVDs! So attached to these characters. For the lady in London, you stand a better chance of running into Rob & Kristen than many of us here in the U.S. Counting down the days.
Anonymous

Quite the humorous chapter….Stinky clothes, Sundress…LOL it just keeps on giving!

The Cullen’s hospitality toward Jake, Leah and Seth just proves how down to earth and human like they really are.
Pour Alice-what a heartbreak that she cannot be with Bella since they are BF’s and I know it’s killing her to not have her in sights.
Bella is using her shield already within to protect the baby and Alice wonders what the baby has in common with Jake….hmmmmm?? I think the moment that Jake saw Bella pregnant and maybe the baby already had the pull on Jake and not know it. That is why he left to tell Sam and leave the pack because he had to have felt something.
I think that is why Alice thinks these two have something in common and why he imprints on her.

I find it so funny that Jake wakes up and sees Seth sitting next to Bella eating and having his arm around her….LOL Jealous Jake??
Dma_618

I’m so excited for Seth to come in. He’s so funny and cute. I think Booboo Stewart was the perfect choice to play him: personality and looks;)
jite4vanquish

Love what you had to say…you are right about how we don’t talk about the other characters much. We are so focused on the love story, we forget there are families that are entwined in all of the drama. And I think that is one of the reasons I love these books so much is because SM wrote the such humanity into the Cullen Vampires that you can just almost forget that they are vampires. I just got home from Twilight Tuesday…it was so much fun. I noticed so much more detail about the movie when watching it on the big screen. And Edward was sooooooo much more enjoyable……I could almost feel him kissing me…..oh, I mean, Bella.
jite4vanquish

The jealousy that Jacob feels when Seth is able to help keep Bella warm was kind of cute…..the old jake was back alright. I would definitely love to see a bit of that in the movie. Glad to hear someone’s else mention it….thanks, ifonly2011
EdwardsNana

Well, once again, there is not much happening in this chapter. But I do love to read about the hositality of the Cullen’s. They so appreciate all the Jacob has done for them. They are so nice, even when Jacob is down right rude about being offered clothes or food….
Twiheart

Hi Twigrandma. Good point about the language. I was going to say the same thing. Bella observed this very early in her acquaintance with Edward. I do wish Jacob and Leah had been kinder about Esme’s food and clothing. The Cullens are all heart.
Love the humor here….sundress, blond jokes, etc.
Twiheart

Good post, LG. Yeah, there is a bond forming with Nessie and Jacob although Jacob has no idea. In the book, it is actually Bella (obviouslyinfluenced by Nessie) that has an unexplained need for Jacob’s nearness. Even Jacob will comment on that later, how Bella greets him so warmly, needs his presence, etc. and he can’t understand why.
Twiheart

Hi, DancingAlice. Haha, did I detect just a bit of jealousy from Jacob about Seth’s arm around Bella, lol? Well, he’ll get his chance. Jacob and Edward, hot and cold packs. Wouldn’t I like them next time i get a fever. ooops, I think that is in another chapter…don’t know, didn’t read this one yet.
Anonymous

I bet its not in the movie, BC said the movie isn’t 2 hrs long.:-(
Anonymous

Great comments lovinggrandmother, I didn’t think Jacob fully appreciated Esmes kindness toward him and Leah, but he’s starting to come around. Seth always comes through,he’s such a great kid.
Anonymous

I know I always felt so bad for Edward, when Bella makes such a big deal about having Jacob around, especially since their married.
Anonymous

I know what you mean, I could hear all the little things so much better. And of course seeing Edward on that big screen was awesome. Where I saw the movie there were only six other people there.
Twiheart

In this chapter we see more of the strange bonding between Jacob and Bella, and wonder how much of that bonding is the pull of Renesmee. Bella is always very happy to see Jake, even more than usual, greeting him with big smiles. He wonders about that (apparently not feeling quite the same intensity of pull, so not so sure this is about imprinting, on Jacob’s part anyway), and prefers she wouldn’t look so joyful in his presence (she is a married woman, for Pete’s sake, and it just hurts him more).

There is a weird conundrum with Jacob and the fetus. Alice suffers headaches when she is around Bella/fetus; her only “pain killers” are Jacob and Seth, and yet she notes that there are many similarities between the fetus and Jacob (to Jake’s chagrin). When Bella made the decision to keep the baby, her future became blurred to Alice, just as her future was lost when she was with Jacob in New Moon. Of course this bothers Alice when she can’t see what will happen to those she loves…she can’t see if Bella will die or live, or what she will give birth to, only that Bella is likewise shielding her baby, adding to Alice’s lack of vision.

We later learn in a future chapter that Renesmee has 24 chromosomes just like Jacob (not 23 like Bella or 25 like Edward…hmmm, did Jake sneak out to Isle Esme? Just kidding). Is this why Renesmee and Jacob are so similar in relation to Alice’s vision? And yet the fetus causes her headaches, while the shape shifters Jake and Seth relieve them, but Jake, Seth and Renesmee have a chromosomal count in common. Yep, a conundrum. Perhaps Alice is trying so hard to “see” beyond this blur that, like a human, gets tension headaches. (Stephenie, our little vixen author, loves giving us puzzles).

Timeline note: Chapter 12 began dawn of September 8; Chapter 13, September 8. This chapter began on September 8 with an exhausted Jacob. When he was finally able to crash on the Cullen porch, he awoke, thinking he had been drinking bleach. Apparently Alice had given him a pillow (always so kind), but the smell stung his nose. It was semi dark, so Jacob thought it must be sunset of the 8th, but entering the Cullen household and seeing Seth scarf down a humongous breakfast, realized he had slept many hours and it was early dawn of September 9th. (Did anyone else’s mouth water at fresh baked cinnamon rolls?).
Twiheart

Hi, TEB4E. The movie is 117 minutes long, that is 3 minutes short of two hours. There better be just about everything in this movie, being as how it is divided into two movies and we have to wait a whole year for the ending!
Twiheart

That’s what this forum is all about, JenLe, to share our opinions freely; our own interpretation of what we read and how we feel about it…and to do so without castigation or criticism. I can see your points. I think we all agree we can disagree. Good job (and everyone on here is someone special, and that includes you).
ifonly2011

No probs xx
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Anonymous

Twiheart, I think Stephenie is just playing with the biology. 23 and 25 average to 24 although that is not how things work in real life. That’s ok, I love my fantasy. The fact that Jake has 24 means that he and Renesmee are compatible.

Like you said, Alice is trying so hard to see Bella’s future which is wrapped up in Nessie’s that it give her a headache, but she can’t see the wolves at all, so pain relief.
Anonymous

All except Rosalie, lol. Hi Nana. See you soon!
Anonymous

I love it whenever Edward says something old-fashioned. I always want to add a little more into the movies.
Twiheart

That’s what’s so fun about this series. Pure fantasy. It is fun to explore the scientific aspects (DNA, chromosomes, etc), but we do it in the aspect of unreality to the world, but reality to OUR Twilight world.
EdwardsNana

Hey TE77……..I can’t sleep. I am so excited.
Anonymous

I hope your right, they should have left that 3 min, in and added a few more.
MeadowLupine

I don’t think they’ll skip the Edward/Seth bond, because they showed it in Eclipse with the two fighting Riley and Victoria together. I think that’s a theme they’re going to continue. Seth is really an amazing character, because he is the first to chose to stand up for the Cullens. Jacob is only there for Bella at first. I think they will touch on Seth’s story for that reason, and besides, they can show so much with the briefest visual of Seth lounging on the couch and chowing down.
MeadowLupine

He didn’t know it, but he was actually being possessive of Nessie.
MeadowLupine

I absolutely LOVE the Esme and Carlisle story, so I hear you on focusing on other characters. I’d love to see a movie about those two. It’s SUCH a romantic story, that so many of us could probably relate to. I relate to Esme’s story more than any other. Falling in love with a beautiful soul as a young girl (who helped her with her broken leg) and never really having eyes for anyone else.. getting married to a man who not only would never love her but abused her (and whom she did not love)… having her baby die and her heart completely break… and then awakening into a new life, seeing the man who stole her heart as a teenager. It’s such a moving story, and I hope someday Stephenie tells it, in complete detail, from Esme’s perspective starting with her everyday teenage life, then the leg break, and so on.
jite4vanquish

Wow, good idea. I never thought about looking that deep into those characters. I always thought Alice’s story would be a good one to tell. But, I like your idea!

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